| Slot Machine Systems | By now, you might be wondering if I have anything positive to say about slot machine strategies. To this point, I've more or less said that slots strategies are a waste of time. So I thought I would detail ways to help a gambler win a little more often at slots. Slots PayoutsA slots player wanting to maximize one's payouts should have a rudimentary knowledge of how payouts work. A payout percentage is what percentage of the money you put into a slot machine will, on average, be payed back to you. If a slot machine has a payout percentage of 93%, that means that you can expect to get back $93 out of every $100 you put into the machine. That's an average, so some people might hit a big jackpot and get hundreds or thousands of dollars more than they put into the machine, while many other people will lose 50% of the money the placed in the same slot machine. We're talking about a theoretical percentage over a large number of spins, so the deviation from the average can be quiet large in the short term. Typically, a payout percentage will be between 83% and 99%, though you won't find too many slot machines paying out much more than 96%. Casinos are stipulated by law to pay a certain percentage out, usually somewhere around 80% in most states. Casino slots tend to pay out somewhere in the 90 percentiles, because they are in competition with other casinos. If they have low payouts, smart players learn that and play in the more competitive gambling house. That's why people tend to warn gamblers to stay away from Native American casinos. It's not that Indian casinos are dishonest. It's that they usually have very little competition in the regions surrounding them. Local gamblers who want to gamble in a live casino either play in the Indian casino or no place at all. So the small-time, local casinos tend to have lower payouts than Las Vegas casinos, where the competition is fierce. Progressives and Flat-TopsA flat-top slot machine is a slot machine without a progressive jackpot. Typically, these slots have a higher hit frequency than progressives, but they don't pay out as much on the hits. If a player wants a chance at a big jackpot, they play the progressive. If a gambler wants to win on more spins, a flat top slots game is probably a better option. Progressive jackpots are those prizes that increase every time a player doesn't hit the jackpot. Imagine the jackpot is at 50,000. If you don't hit the jackpot, the progressive rises by a small percentage. These days, progressives are often networked with dozens of other progressive slot machines, meaning the jackpot rises every time a machine throughout the network is played and the progressive jackpot is not hit. Live sports odds api. Still, scouring the casino floor for a high progressive jackpot is the only time that slot machine strategy actually comes into play. Of course, when a progressive jackpot reaches that magical level.. Advantage Play StrategiesOne concept with the progressive jackpot is advantage play. If a progressive jackpot reaches a certain level, beyond the break-even point, then playing on that machine becomes a positive expectation game. This is called advantage play. That is, the payout percentage rises above 100% and a player can expect to win more money then losing, if that player wins the jackpot. Pop slot casino. One problem with advantage play is, in a networked progressive, the player isn't assured of winning the jackpot, so even if he or she sat there until the jackpot was won. A second problem is, there is no assurance that a jackpot will be hit by a given spin, so a player might still run through one's entire bankroll before hitting the progressive, even in an advantage play scenario.
Serious slots players walk casino floors looking for the right progressive jackpots. So you aren't likely to find too many cases where a slot machine with a high progressive jackpot is uncovered. If you do, play it. Even at that, don't expect to win, because your odds of hitting the jackpot is no larger than before. Other than advantage play slot machine strategies, there are no other real slot machine strategies. So don't waste your time reading books on money management, betting techniques and slots tips. They won't help. |
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sabreSo it's illegal to set slot machines to pay more than they take in? That's like saying it's illegal to give out money lol.
But seriously don't reply to that because we are seriously getting off topic. Yes you are right that all that matters for slot AP is I the next spin is has positive EV but think about the question that I posted. Is the positive EV coming from the slot game itself or the side game winnings? And yes side games that give free spins is a side game award & not a slot award. Also games that have reel manipulation where your reels can grow in size (buffalo rampage) is a side game & not the standard slot game!!!
You insist on using words that only have meaning to you. You have people that have worked in the industry telling you that 'side game' and 'standard game' aren't terms used in the industry. Your insistence on using them is strange.
Oops - Mission addressed this much more clearly than I could as I was typing this.
Yes, many states have a jurisdictional maximum slot return.
The maximum return in West Virginia for a slot machine is supposed to be 95%, for one example. Keep in mind that various states tax casino revenues, which refers to net win, so it is indeed in a jurisdiction's interest that the casino not give money away.
The positive EV is coming as a fundamental function of the way the game was designed. I still don't know what you mean by, 'Side games.' Some machines have what you might call, 'Side game,' and others do not. I would say that most variable state slot machines that a person would vulture do not have a, 'Side game,' or if they do, that the side game has nothing to do with whether the machine's next spin has a positive expectation.
If you're referring to Progressive Free Games machines, a few of which function on a must-hit basis, then I will say that those are not the only types of variable-state slots that can be played at an advantage. In fact, they'd be in the minority.
Even if you expanded on that to include all progressives of any kind, there would still be slot machines that can be played at an advantage provided you know when to play and when not to play. Of those, the, 'Free Games,' usually has exactly nothing to do with whether or not the game is at an advantage because the Free Games probabilities (and expected returns of Free Games) tend to be a known and fixed commodity.
Thank you for teaching me something new, this doesn't happen often here so id like to give you some serious respect for that ;) Never would have guessed a state would care about a casinos minimum house edge. This only applies to gaming machines correct? Obviously we have table games with much less of a house edge ;)
Now getting back to the question at hand. Please share any slot machine that you believe is AP plausible & I will review that machine till my eyes go blind ;)
What fundamental function are you talking about? Let me rephrase the question, do you know any slot machines which are not AP plausible??? Because if so than what makes the slots that are AP plausible different than the ones that aren't? Is it perhaps because of the extra side games & features that were added on separately to make that game stand out which is causing the game to be AP plausible?
Did you know that the jackpots or bonuses on these machines are not considered part of the slot game???
Legally any mini-game is a separate entity from the main game & you must file for its own gaming application approval & it's own mathematical analysis from a lab!
Can you give some examples of popular games that require a second submission for their bonusses? I have submitted over 100 games and I don't recall ever having to do a second submission for the bonus.
Even if you expanded on that to include all progressives of any kind, there would still be slot machines that can be played at an advantage provided you know when to play and when not to play. Of those, the, 'Free Games,' usually has exactly nothing to do with whether or not the game is at an advantage because the Free Games probabilities (and expected returns of Free Games) tend to be a known and fixed commodity.
Yes but the variable amount of free games given could be making the game AP plausible. If there is an advantage to gain more free games on certain spins and not others than it's not the slot game that is AP plausible but rather the side game which is providing all the fee spins which is making the entire slot machine AP plausible. Does this make sense?
Anyway, I remember this one from eighth grade debate class.
The first thing that you have done is created a term, 'Side game,' which you have not defined. This term does not have any definite meaning as a term such as, 'Return-to-Player,' has meaning. We can agree on return-to-player and if you spoke to the contrary of the term's accepted meaning, then everyone could just tell you that's not what that means.
For what purpose I do not know, but you have picked a term, 'Side game,' which doesn't really have a set standard. You have neglected to define what you mean by the term, 'Side game,' so far, even though there's no generally accepted meaning that I'm aware of in this context.
Having selected the term, 'Side game,' and not having defined it, you can then say that the term describes basically whatever the hell you want it to describe. Kind of the opposite, because people are saying things which you are then saying are described by the term. If you define the term in advance, then a person could challenge that something you have said does not meet your own definition for the term.
Since you have not yet defined it, you can instead disregard anything that you want to as being a, 'Side game,' even if that thing is not a game of its own at all or is simply a function of the main game.
Everything above seems to be in service to your contention that standard slot games cannot be advantage played---which, for whatever reason, seems very important to you.
If, according to the way you would use the words, 'Standard Slot Game,' and, 'Side Game,' renders AP impossible on the, 'Standard Slot Game,' then I concede that you are right and slots AP is not possible. I can't express a contrary opinion when I don't even know what the words you are using are supposed to mean.
Sorry about the choice of terminology, the terms I'm using are in context to game design. A side game is going to be any separate gaming function that is not a direct payout from slot reels would be considered a side game. So for example if you spin and you hit 3 bells and get paid immediately for those bells & nothing else, that you were paid from the slot game. However you spin and you win a chance to hit a jackpot, you are now getting paid from the combination of the slot game and the side game. Even if you spin and win a free spin, you didn't win the free spin from the standard reel symbols so your winnings are still going to be a combination of slot & side game play.
Can you give some examples of popular games that require a second submission for their bonusses? I have submitted over 100 games and I don't recall ever having to do a second submission for the bonus.
Sorry, I used some poor word choices. Let me revise my statement. It's the same application but the side games are stated as separate entities and are evaluated separately on their own merits because often there is no need to review the slot games mechanics since there hasn't been a slot game redesign in over 20 years.
Thank you for teaching me something new, this doesn't happen often here so id like to give you some serious respect for that ;) Never would have guessed a state would care about a casinos minimum house edge. This only applies to gaming machines correct? Obviously we have table games with much less of a house edge ;)
You're welcome. Many states tax both table games and slots at the same percentage, but some states tax them at different percentages. Oddly enough, the State of Pennsylvania is one that taxes slots/video poker revenues at more than 50%, but taxes Table Games at a significantly lower percentage.
Now getting back to the question at hand. Please share any slot machine that you believe is AP plausible & I will review that machine till my eyes go blind ;)
What fundamental function are you talking about? Let me rephrase the question, do you know any slot machines which are not AP plausible??? Because if so than what makes the slots that are AP plausible different than the ones that aren't? Is it perhaps because of the extra side games & features that were added on separately to make that game stand out which is causing the game to be AP plausible?
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Ocean Magic and just start with the Wizard of Odds page. That game does have, 'Free Games,' but the component that makes Ocean Magic variable state has absolutely nothing to do with the Free Games. The component is also not a side game..unless you REALLY want to call it one, but it all acts as part of one game.
Yes. Any slot machine that does not have a progressive or a variable-state function of any kind is not AP plausible on its own. Walk into a casino. Look around. Almost all of them. Diamond Hunt, Quick Hits (if no Progressives), Better Off Ed..all kinds of games.
The features are not, 'Added separately,' they're just part of the game. Ocean Magic without the bubbles would never get approved because just the reels + Free Games would not meet minimum return requirements. You'd have to change one of those two things to make the return better, anyway.
Yes but the variable amount of free games given could be making the game AP plausible. If there is an advantage to gain more free games on certain spins and not others than it's not the slot game that is AP plausible but rather the side game which is providing all the fee spins which is making the entire slot machine AP plausible. Does this make sense?
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I understand what you are describing and would never think to call that a, 'Side Game.' You would just call that a Progressive Free Games meter.Interestingly, the slot machine game Three Kings has a progressive Free Games meter, which consists of three different Free Games totals and can NEVER be played at an advantage..even if all three meters are at their max.
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Anyway, there are a few games that do what you describe with a couple of recent newish ones that just came out. I wouldn't say there are a ton of any of those, but there are a few. I don't understand why knowing the approximate value of each Free Game and then figuring out what a particular Progressive (or combination) needs to be that would not count as slots advantage play..but if you say it doesn't, then I guess it doesn't.You insist on using words that only have meaning to you. You have people that have worked in the industry telling you that 'side game' and 'standard game' aren't terms used in the industry. Your insistence on using them is strange.
Oops - Mission addressed this much more clearly than I could as I was typing this.
This is were your wrong. Yes those terms may not be used in the casino gaming industry but they should be since they are standard terms that are used in virtually every other gaming industry you can thing. Just because the casino industry isn't hip to the times of new game design doesn't mean they shouldn't be. Seriously the casino industry is stuck in the 1900's we're every other gaming industry (including board games) is up to date with it's time. That's why I entered the casino industry, because it's the 1 industry with the least about of improvements thought the decades ;)
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Sorry about the choice of terminology, the terms I'm using are in context to game design. A side game is going to be any separate gaming function that is not a direct payout from slot reels would be considered a side game. So for example if you spin and you hit 3 bells and get paid immediately for those bells & nothing else, that you were paid from the slot game. However you spin and you win a chance to hit a jackpot, you are now getting paid from the combination of the slot game and the side game. Even if you spin and win a free spin, you didn't win the free spin from the standard reel symbols so your winnings are still going to be a combination of slot & side game play.